Dual citizenship

[Big RR]

Not quite rubato--froM the US government website:

A Child Born Outside the U.S. is a Citizen at Birth IF... AND...
Both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of birth, The parents were married at the time of birth and at least one parent lived in the U.S. or its territories prior to the birth.

If the child was born out of wedlock, see N-600: FAQ.

One parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of birth and the birthdate is on or after November 14, 1986 The parents are married at the time of birth and the U.S. citizen parent had been physically present in the U.S. or its territories for a period of at least five years at some time in his or her life prior to the birth, of which at least two years were after his or her 14th birthday.

If the U.S. citizen parent spent time abroad in any of the following three capacities, this can also be counted towards the physical presence requirement:

Serving honorably in the U.S. Armed Forces;
Employed with the U.S. Government; or
Employed with certain international organizations.
Additionally, time spent abroad by the U.S. citizen parent while the U.S. citizen parent was the unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person who meets any of the three conditions listed above can also be counted.

If the child was born out of wedlock, see N-600: FAQ.

One parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of birth and the birthdate is before November 14, 1986 but after October 10, 1952 The parents are married at the time of birth and the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. or its territories for a period of at least ten years at some time in his or her life prior to the birth, at least five of which were after his or her 14th birthday.

If the U.S. citizen parent spent time abroad in any of the following three capacities, this can also be counted towards the physical presence requirement:

Serving honorably in the U.S. Armed Forces;
Employed with the U.S. Government; or
Employed with certain international organizations.
Additionally, time spent abroad by the U.S. citizen parent while the U.S. citizen parent was the unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person who meets any of the three conditions listed above can also be counted.

If the child was born out of wedlock, see N-600: FAQ.



Automatic U.S. Citizenship After Birth - But Before the Age of 18

A Child Born Outside the U.S. is a Citizen after Birth IF… AND...
The child was under 18 or not yet born on February 27, 2001 At least one parent is a U.S. citizen, the child is currently under 18 and residing in the U.S. in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent pursuant to lawful admission for permanent residence.
The child was under 18 from December 24, 1952 to February 26, 2001 The child was residing as a Green Card holder in the U.S. and both parents naturalized before the child’s 18th birthday; OR

If one parent died, that the surviving parent naturalized before the child turned 18.
If the parents legally separated, that the parent maintaining legal and physical custody naturalized before the child turned 18.
If the child was born out of wedlock and paternity has not been established by legitimation, the mother naturalized before the child turned 18.
NOTE: The order in which the child meets the conditions does not matter so long as the child meets all the conditions before his or her 18th birthday.

The child was adopted by a U.S. citizen parent The child resides legally in the U.S. in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent and meets the following conditions after February 27, 2001 but before his or her 18th birthday:

The adoptive parent adopted the child before his or her 16th birthday (or, in some cases, 18th birthday) and had legal custody of the child and resided with the child for at least two years; OR
The child was admitted to the United States as an orphan (IR-3) or Convention adoptee (IH-3) whose adoption by his or her U.S. citizen parent(s) was fully completed abroad; OR
The child was admitted to the United States as an orphan (IR-4) or Convention adoptee (IH-4) who was coming to the United States to be adopted and the child's adoptive parent(s) completed the adoption before his or her 18th birthday.


As for dual citizenship, many countries will confer citizenship based on the citizenship of the father--I had a friend who was almost drafted in Greece when he visited (and the Greeks and Turks were saber rattling over Cypress) because his father was Greek; he was denied the right to leave and spent about a week of sleepless nights before the crisis cooled (the US embassy said there was nothing they could do, he seriously considered trying to sneal out of the country). It's worth looking into, especiallhy if you are of an age where conscription would be a possibility, before you visit the land of your ancestors.

[liberty]

After the War Between the States, there were a number Southerners that fled to Brazil to escape the murder, rape and vindictiveness of the Yankee occupier. Their off-spring are still there. If an individual can trace his line back to the US, does he have a right to US citizenship?

[dales]

[liberty]

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[Big RR]

After the War Between the States, there were a number Southerners that fled to Brazil to escape the murder, rape and vindictive of the Yankee occupier. Their off-spring are still there. If an individual can trace his line back to the US, does he have a right to US citizenship?

Perhaps, if all their forebearers met the US residency requirements in effect at the time to confer US citizenship on the parents of the subsequent generation(s) and did not renounce (or intend to renounce) their US citizenship.

[MajGenl.Meade]

The child was under 18 from December 24, 1952 to February 26, 2001

Man, that's tough criteria right there! Looks like only Robin, the Boy Wonder, would qualify!

[Scooter]

After the War Between the States, there were a number Southerners that fled to Brazil because it was a place where they could continue owning slaves.

Fixed that for you.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Not exactly the case but certainly relevant. The large number who returned to the USA within 10 years indicates that interest in slavery had...er...somewhat decreased:

http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=97

Cyrus B. Dawsey, James M. Dawsey, eds. The Confederados: Old South Immigrants in Brazil Conniff. Tuscaloosa: University of Alabama Press, 1995. xiii + 273 pp. $34.95 (cloth), ISBN 978-0-8173-0753-0.

Reviewed by Robert Kenzer (Department of History, University of Richmond)
Published on H-CivWar (July, 1995)

While most historians of the South and the Civil War era have heard something about the Confederados, the estimated 2,000 to 4,000 Southerners who left the United States just after the Civil War and settled in Brazil, few are aware of the extensive scholarly literature on these emigrants that has been published since the 1920s..... While The Confederados covers a wide variety of topics, there are some issues that it either merely touches on or fails to consider entirely. By far the most interesting trait of the Americans who settled in Brazil after the Civil War is that they were Southerners who had lived in a slaveholding society. Throughout the book, however, we are informed that few of the Confederados "acquired substantial numbers of Brazilian slaves" after settling in Brazil, largely because they could not afford to do so (p. 18). Indeed, it is argued that slaveholding was not the primary explanation for why these Southerners moved to pre-emancipation Brazil. Unfortunately, the essayists never reveal how many and what share of the Confederados owned slaves in Brazil. Perhaps the records in Brazil shed less light on this subject than such sources as the manuscript census and tax lists do in the United States. Still, are there no sources concerning Confederado slave owners? Are there no sets of personal or business papers that would touch on this subject? Further, what position did the Confederados take on the emancipation of slavery in their new nation? [good question! ]

The question of how Confederados felt about the emancipation of slavery in Brazil raises another issue -- the public life of these emigrants and their descendants. Although there seems to be quite an extensive literature on the men who led Southerners to Brazil, who emerged as leaders among the Confederados after their arrival? Were they slaveowners? Were the Confederados allowed to participate at all in local, regional, or national government? If they could vote, did they do so as a bloc? Given the fact that so many of them had served in the Confederate army, did they serve in the military in Brazil?

Finally, the book largely ignores demographic issues. While it is noted that many of the Confederados failed to remain in Brazil for very long, as evidenced by the disappearance of many of their colonies (the estimate is that half of the emigrants returned to the United States within a decade), there is no sense even with the successful colony of Santa Barbara of how many of these people persisted over any given span of time.

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[Sean]

The child was under 18 from December 24, 1952 to February 26, 2001

Man, that's tough criteria right there! Looks like only Robin, the Boy Wonder, would qualify!

It's the Peter (Pan) Principle...

[Gob]

Posted by June Beckett
Julia Gillard was born in Wales so can anybody out there tell me:
a) Does she still have duel citizenship:
b) If not, when did she give up her Welsh citizenship:
c) If she has given up her Welsh passport, has she also totally relinquished her Welsh nationality

http://justgroundsonline.com/forum/topi ... ans-s44-of

[MajGenl.Meade]

Does she still have duel citizenship

That would be challenging

[rubato]

Does she still have duel citizenship

That would be challenging

guns or long knives?

[Jarlaxle]

Flamethrowers at two paces.