BSG's "Complaints"....

[Sean]

Intemperate language, whatever could he mean?

Fuck knows...

[TPFKA@W]

.If @W criticizes her, then of course, the problem must be that BSG "vastly over-estimated her"

She has been oblivious to the fact that I haven't been real warm to her charm for some time. Long before my exit. I know I expressed my opinion in private to Lord Jim a long time back. I believe I called out Loca and BSG to you Jim, if you will remember.

In any case apparently Loca's departure has left a void which must be filled.

[The Hen]

I love you.

[MajGenl.Meade]

I beg to differ Meade.

By all means, Sean. Just read the posts between my prior and this one. Models of rectitude all round, barkeep! As I said "much of it is empty triumphalism - a kind of cyber bullying puffing of chests and rattling of testicles more suited to the playground than among adults"

I apologise for seeming to exclude the ladies who have no testicles, other than those who may have some in glass jars*, but "rattling of ...er ...." well, the equivalent seemed a little insensitive.

As @w put it: "In any case apparently Loca's departure has left a void which must be filled", so let the duckings begin

And I rest my quite ordinary case. The airlines surcharge for the other kind - keep falling out of the overhead bins apparently

Meade

*although I understand Euro legislation suggests there may be a fine for re-use of containers

[Gob]

I don't think anyone (sane) here would claim to be a "model of rectum" or whatever Meade. In fact, it's those who feel they can do no wrong which end up throwing hissy fits and leaving, more often than not.

[TPFKA@W]

As @w put it: "In any case apparently Loca's departure has left a void which must be filled", so let the duckings begin

Except I meant in the role of troll, not victim. Silly person.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Oh!!!! My bad!!! Sorry @w for a moment I thought you were concurring!

Gob, maybe that's so. Actually I think most hissy fits are thrown by people who don't leave. Some even start threads just to have lots of them. So I hear.

Meade

[TPFKA@W]

Whateveronearth would possess an individual who was protesting the burning of a heretic to show up with a jug of gasoline? Repeatedly?

[MajGenl.Meade]

Oh sure, I understand your point - very good analogy! Perhaps one issue is whether or not the cheering bystanders grab the gasoline, shove the new arrival to the stake and strike up a match?

IMO it's sufficient to show how wrong another poster may be (and BSG was wrong) by cogent arguments than to lard responses with cheap abuse*. But each person must answer for their own actions and if it goes way beyond simply counter-argument and descends to the mud with all signs of enjoying the wallow.... well that's to be regretted, whether it's anyone else or me that goes there.

Hey, I've done it (do it), perhaps in different ways - I enjoy sarcasm et ridicule, which is best when the party aimed at doesn't realise they've been skewered. Maybe that's what Scooter (I think it was he) meant by my "passive-aggressive bullshit".

Meade

*some abuse may not be cheap but merely look trashy

[Sean]

You failed to mention in your analogy that the new arrival attempted to throw her gasoline over the bystanders but in doing so only succeeded in soaking herself.

[TPFKA@W]

Because it requires a different analogy. In that instance a bucket of poop was brought rather than gas. The troll wanna be flung that into a stiff wind and suceeded in coating herself liberally. Are you following me?

[Lord Jim]

I believe I called out Loca and BSG to you Jim, if you will remember.

Yes, I do indeed...

Gen'l, you have got the complete wrong end of the stick here...

Other people raised questions about what LoCa did, and whether or not it merited banning...none were treated with anything but politeness....

BSG was also dealt with politely for the most part, (especially at the outset)

The idea "A poster showed up with an unpopular point of view and got abused for it" is the phoney narrative she would like to push...

The fact is, BSG's posts in the banning thread never really had anything to do with the actual issue at hand. She was merely using that as a cover to delve into her personal resentments against other posters and the board in general because she does not believe that she received her just due about matters entirely unrelated to LoCa's banning....

This became more and more obvious with each successive post....

The difference between the Quad case and the LoCa case, was explained to her nine different times by nine different posters, and yet she continued to pretend not to see the difference...(And we know for a fact she was pretending, because her own words posted in the quotes in the OP show conclusively that she understood perfectly well the difference)

In her posts in the banning thread, she didn't express "heretical" views. She used the thread as a vehicle to attack and smear other posters, attack the board in general, and lie her ass off (though in fairness it's possible she wasn't really "lying" in the strict sense of the word; it's quite possible that she is so delusional that she truly believes the fairytales she was telling) creating a totally false narrative about what she and others said and did regarding LoCa and Quad. (A narrative completely demolished by her own words, re-posted in this thread.)

I won't repeat again the reasons for why she did this, they are laid out and supported in detail in this thread already. But just to summarize, she has deep resentments against me and other posters here, (particularly Strop and Hen) and even the board in general for what her narcissistic self absorption has delusionally led her to conclude were wrongs perpetrated against her.

And she tried repeatedly, (grossly inappropriately) to turn a thread discussing the permanent banning of a member into a vehicle for a discussion about these delusional beliefs, and then even had the gall to get ticked off when nobody else would join in to help her do it.

This thread was created for the purpose of giving folks a vehicle for responding openly and honestly to the outrageous falsehoods and personal attacks that she launched in that thread, because that thread wasn't the place to deal with them. It was also created to give her an opportunity to have that discussion she claimed to want about how "toxic" this board supposedly is.

She wasn't expressing unpopular views for which she is now getting attacked; she was using the banning thread as a cover to troll other posters for her own purposes, and now her words and motives are being revealed for what they really were.

[Joe Guy]

BSG? Make good on your threat. Go. And don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out.

I spent 2 hours typing a logical and coherent response in the 'Ban Loca' Thread only to have it eaten by the ether. Fuck that!

And Fuck you. Go lay by your dish. You fucking self important piece of self absorbed, condescending cunt.

[Lord Jim]

Tim: You really have to stop sugar coating things, buddy. Stop all the pussyfooting; being overly diplomatic isn't going to help you make your point...

The bottom line is, BSG has got one set of rules for how she believes she is entitled to deal with other posters, (gratuitous insults, sneering condescension, gross mischaracterizations, etc.) and a completely different set of rules for how she believes other posters are entitled to deal with her, (deferentially, politely, respectfully, etc.)

Because of her total self focus, everything that happens to her, becomes hugely magnified in significance, and anything that happens to anyone else becomes diminished in comparison....

Somebody stepping on her toe is at least as bad as somebody else getting whacked in the head with 2X4....if not worse...

This is how she could hold the surreal belief that my wondering whether or not she knew that Montana had no insanity defense in the course of a fight that she had started, was somehow the equivalent of a poster trolling and harassing somebody else for two years with no justification.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn she seriously believes I should have been suspended for that...

[Lord Jim]

Just read the posts between my prior and this one. Models of rectitude all round, barkeep! As I said "much of it is empty triumphalism - a kind of cyber bullying puffing of chests and rattling of testicles more suited to the playground than among adults"

Well Gen'l, I just reviewed my posts between those two posts of yours, and what I was doing was providing some history and context for BSG's attitude and behavior towards me, with links to back up what I was saying (which seems quite relevant to the discussion to me, since it was a key component to what caused her to storm out and ultimately led to her antics in the banning thread this past week. )

Her "problems" with me have been referenced a number of times, and I thought it appropriate to try to provide the full context of what this referred to.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Whatever Jim lad, whatever. I'm an expert at empty triumphalism..... sometimes this place is like listening to two old women nattering and tutting and repeating themselves over and over. Or two old men, just to be fair.


Two old men, sitting in deck chairs
One says to the other "It's nice out in'it?"
And the other one says "Yes but put it away there's a policeman coming"

[Joe Guy]

I believe this type of response from BSG is very telling & typical of her modus operendi
(a term I learned from a law school I found on the back of a matchbook and graduated from cum laude)...

LJ makes threats to seek legal advice and/or take legal action in response to Andrew D's accusations that he's a criminal in his professional life, but can't comprehend my outrage when he makes outrageous statements (entirely misunderstanding Montana law) asserting that I'm nearly incompetent, despite serving as the highest law enforcement officer in my jurisdiction?

Ipso facto, one can deduce there is a definite need for her to let everyone know that despite the way she presents herself here, she is ex professo in her real life.

I say this now, because BSG, a person who has informed everyone here that she is highly respected in her profession, has made a solemn oath to never return to this forum, therefore I find solace in knowing that I'm immune from rebuttal.

[Lord Jim]

It's also a really good argument for avoiding that jurisdiction.. .

[Joe Guy]

Highest law enforcement officer

[Lord Jim]