COP21 - the 21st Conference of Parties to discuss the next iteration of the climate change agreements (the Kyoto Protocol). November 30-December 11. I was hoping to try and go, didn't work out this time, but I have friends and colleagues participating.Lord Jim wrote:There's supposed to be a big UN climate change conference kicking off in Paris in just a little over two weeks (Nov. 3Oth)....
A large number of Heads-of-Government from around the world, (including our own President) were expected to attend the opening session...
I have a strong feeling that that's going to be either postponed or moved to a location in the French Alps or a military base...
Explosions and Gunfire Reported At Three Locations In Paris
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Sadly but predictably, this makes sense...I thought this was likely to happen as soon as the "hostage taking" was reported...they say that they are executing hostages, and that the hostages are begging the cops to come ....
This operation wasn't about taking hostages and making demands...
It was about killing as many people as possible...
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There have been credible threats against Paris this fall, I believe that's part of why the borders were closed so quickly.
The City was still jumpy in May after Charlie Hebdo. It's going to be even more anxious now.
The City was still jumpy in May after Charlie Hebdo. It's going to be even more anxious now.
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Horrible.Lord Jim wrote:Sadly but predictably, this makes sense...I thought this was likely to happen as soon as the "hostage taking" was reported...they say that they are executing hostages, and that the hostages are begging the cops to come ....
This operation wasn't about taking hostages and making demands...
It was about killing as many people as possible...
It looks like something like a rescue effort/storming may be going on there now.
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I believe that part of the reason that they are closing borders is to prevent the possible escape of bad guys
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Maybe to prevent the escape of some who were involved at a higher level in the planning, (though I suspect they were well clear of the country before this attack was launched) or the escape of some who may have been involved in support or weapons supply...or maybe some that got cold feet...
But it's becoming increasingly clear that those who participated operationally went in with the mission of killing as many people as possible before they themselves were killed...
With so many involved, some may try to slip away, but this was designed as a suicide mission for the participants...
But it's becoming increasingly clear that those who participated operationally went in with the mission of killing as many people as possible before they themselves were killed...
With so many involved, some may try to slip away, but this was designed as a suicide mission for the participants...
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I heard Al Gore is in Paris. Maybe he can update us on the climate there...
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This is one of those times I'm glad I don't have a TV. 
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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Seige is over. Bataclan attack is over. Don't know any numbers yet --- the Deputy Mayor on CNN right now
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Bats own?
So sad. "The siege is over". Presumably all hostages killed then. Awful
So sad. "The siege is over". Presumably all hostages killed then. Awful
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Agence France-Presse is reporting there are 100 killed at the concert hall....
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As I said, no reports on numbers yet.
And "bats own" was an autoincorrect.
And "bats own" was an autoincorrect.
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Whoops, yes AFP and CNN reporting around 100 killed. We don't know how many were there in the first place. I've heard from 200-1000.
Le Monde is saying there were 7 coordinated attacks. At least one of the three explosions at Stade de France was a suicide attack - they have found body parts.
Le Monde is saying there were 7 coordinated attacks. At least one of the three explosions at Stade de France was a suicide attack - they have found body parts.
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...and the band performing? Deaths Metal or something?
Eagles of Death Metal have issued a statement on Facebook. "We are still currently trying to determine the safety and whereabouts of all our band and crew," they wrote. "Our thoughts are with all of the people involved in this tragic situation."
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Something like that. From SoCal.
http://www.bataclan.fr/events.php
Eagles of Death Metal. Theatre can hold 1000-1500.
http://www.bataclan.fr/events.php
Eagles of Death Metal. Theatre can hold 1000-1500.
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Eagles of Death Metal
What's in a name?
What's in a name?
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Please don't go there. Really.
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I was wondering if the name at all was attractive and made that particular place a target? Drones... Americans... I don't know. It's just too terrible to even contemplate.
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118 at the club now, they say
Why the heck is CNN saying what a wonderful coup this is for ISIS? Why do they have to amplify fear and terror? For goodness' sake, the NFL and UK football TV refuse to show idiots running on the pitch to avoid "encouraging others". And these news idiots just make ISIS feel even better....
Why the heck is CNN saying what a wonderful coup this is for ISIS? Why do they have to amplify fear and terror? For goodness' sake, the NFL and UK football TV refuse to show idiots running on the pitch to avoid "encouraging others". And these news idiots just make ISIS feel even better....
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One thing that I think that can be safely said at this point, (just simply looking at the scope and execution of it) is that this was not the work of some handful of amateur Jihadist wannabes who "self radicalized" over the internet...
This was the work of a well trained, well organized, well supplied, disciplined terrorist operation.
This was the work of a well trained, well organized, well supplied, disciplined terrorist operation.