California should be sued into bankruptcy

[liberty]

California should be sued into bankruptcy. This person should never have been in the country, should never have obtained a California driver's license, and should never have received a California commercial driver's license. He should never have been on the road. California is guilty of killing these people and should pay for it. What in the world possessed a man to try making a U-turn on an interstate in a big rig? This goes beyond stupid. This is criminally stupid.


"Another tragic and avoidable incident involving an illegal immigrant unfolded this past week in Florida, costing three Americans their lives.

An illegal immigrant truck driver has been arrested after allegedly attempting to make an unlawful U-turn in a commercial semi-truck with a trailer while on Florida’s Turnpike in Fort Pierce, according to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

The driver, identified as Harjinder Singh, has been charged with three counts of vehicular homicide.

Singh reportedly obtained his commercial driver’s license while in California, the Department of Homeland Security said.

According to WTVT, Singh tried making an illegal U-turn, causing a minivan to collide with the side of his truck."

[Joe Guy]

If he were a legal citizen, would the accident be acceptable?

Should each state be liable for all accidents caused by drivers they have licensed?

[liberty]

If he were a legal citizen, would the accident be acceptable?

Should each state be liable for all accidents caused by drivers they have licensed?

If everything had remained the same and he had been a legal citizen, as you put it, it would still have been a horrendous crime and tremendously stupid. But at least the state of California would be in the clear; they couldn't be accused of doing anything wrong. They can't predict what a person might do, but they should have known they were licensing someone who had no legal permission to be in this country, since he was here illegally. He evidently was the kind of person who made his own rules. I assume he thought was doing own the Interstate was just fine. Would you at least agree this was an incredibly stupid act?

In the culture he came from, what he did might have been seen as acceptable, but that doesn’t excuse it here. When someone operates a massive commercial vehicle on American roads, they must follow American laws and standards of judgment. The consequences of ignoring that are deadly, and the state’s failure to prevent it is indefensible.

[Joe Guy]

I assume he thought was doing own the Interstate was just fine. Would you at least agree this was an incredibly stupid act?

Yeah, pretty stupid

In the culture he came from, what he did might have been seen as acceptable, but that doesn’t excuse it here.

Do you really believe that?

When someone operates a massive commercial vehicle on American roads, they must follow American laws and standards of judgment. The consequences of ignoring that are deadly, and the state’s failure to prevent it is indefensible.

In order to obtain a commercial driver's license in California, everyone is required to pass the same tests, which includes a road test and knowledge of traffic laws. The man passed the tests. How is California liable?

Are you saying that even though he passed the driver's tests and was licensed, being an "illegal immigrant" automatically made him a less skilled driver than a US citizen?

[Burning Petard]

Criminal? The state is liable for criminal activities in another state? Stupidity is now a crime?

Mr. Liberty, you need to get some education about sovereign immunity. For obvious reasons, I do not suggest you read about it.

snailgate

[Big RR]

Are you saying that even though he passed the driver's tests and was licensed, being an "illegal immigrant" automatically made him a less skilled driver than a US citizen?

sure that's exactly what he was saying because every illegal immigrant is

the kind of person who made his own rules

. You know, those unreliable foreigners that come from a

culture... [where] what he did might have been seen as acceptable, but that doesn’t excuse it here

. Yep, all those undocumented scofflaws coming here to wreak havoc on our roads, Why, if if we kept them all out we'd never have an accident on our roads again.

[liberty]

Are you saying that even though he passed the driver's tests and was licensed, being an "illegal immigrant" automatically made him a less skilled driver than a US citizen?

sure that's exactly what he was saying because every illegal immigrant is

the kind of person who made his own rules

. You know, those unreliable foreigners that come from a

culture... [where] what he did might have been seen as acceptable, but that doesn’t excuse it here

. Yep, all those undocumented scofflaws coming here to wreak havoc on our roads, Why, if if we kept them all out we'd never have an accident on our roads again.

This illegal Immigrant truck driver is the same individual who collapsed a wooden bridge in Arkansas just a few years ago. Some suspect he does not read or understand English very well. When a bridge has a sign indicating it can only support 5 tons, you shouldn't cross it with a semi-truck. At the time of the wooden bridge collapse, some people wanted to blame the accident on GPS. But perhaps they should have taken a closer look at the driver. If he can't read Highway safety signs, what does that say about California's government?

[liberty]

Criminal? The state is liable for criminal activities in another state? Stupidity is now a crime?

Mr. Liberty, you need to get some education about sovereign immunity. For obvious reasons, I do not suggest you read about it.

snailgate

Oh yes, I think I've heard of something called the Eleventh Amendment, but I thought blue states didn't believe in sovereign immunity." No one was above the law, not even the state"

[BoSoxGal]

Are you saying that even though he passed the driver's tests and was licensed, being an "illegal immigrant" automatically made him a less skilled driver than a US citizen?

sure that's exactly what he was saying because every illegal immigrant is

the kind of person who made his own rules

. You know, those unreliable foreigners that come from a

culture... [where] what he did might have been seen as acceptable, but that doesn’t excuse it here

. Yep, all those undocumented scofflaws coming here to wreak havoc on our roads, Why, if if we kept them all out we'd never have an accident on our roads again.

This illegal Immigrant truck driver is the same individual who collapsed a wooden bridge in Arkansas just a few years ago. Some suspect he does not read or understand English very well. When a bridge has a sign indicating it can only support 5 tons, you shouldn't cross it with a semi-truck. At the time of the wooden bridge collapse, some people wanted to blame the accident on GPS. But perhaps they should have taken a closer look at the driver. If he can't read Highway safety signs, what does that say about California's government?

21% of American CITIZENS are functionally illiterate.

The VAST majority of auto crashes on US roads and highways involve stupid driving by stupid US citizens.

Your posts are a caricature of MAGA, liberty.

[Sue U]

Your posts are a caricature of MAGA, liberty.

To be fair, he has never been one to let reality stand in the way of his beliefs, and really, isn't that what MAGA is all about?

[Big RR]

If he can't read Highway safety signs, what does that say about California's government?

and if he wrecked a bridge with no consequences, what does that say about Arkansas?

In any event, I would imagine he could read well enough to read the number 5 and understand "tons"; he did pass a written exam to get his trucker license.

The guy may have been the worst driver in the US, but it was not be cause he was here illegally or because he came from another country. More likely because he was a shitty driver, and there are tons of US citizens who fit this description. But rant on about THEM.