'He drinks a liquid, falls into a deep sleep and dies'

[loCAtek]

I have not laughed so much in ages. Lo, get a grip. What you are saying amounts to "something is either holy or worthless". Can't you see the ignorance of that?

No, that's semantics, which the Grammar Nazis, re: pedants, are debating rather than the real issue.

The point was: is life sacred or worthless? Granted, there are degrees, so discuss...

[rubato]

Why do you hate loca so much? What is the point?

Is it just sharing hatred with others? Are you so pathetic and small as a person?





yrs,
rubato

Yes, you are.

[Gob]

No, that's semantics, which the Grammar Nazis, re: pedants, are debating rather than the real issue.

No one was debating that point until you used it to show your utter inability to understand the use of a dictionary. You don't want to debate these things, then don't introduce them into debate, and don't keep hammering away at showing your complete ignorance once you've been corrected.

The point was: is life sacred or worthless? Granted, there are degrees, so discuss...

Degrees of scared or worthless?

[loCAtek]

Yes

[loCAtek]

No, that's semantics, which the Grammar Nazis, re: pedants, are debating rather than the real issue.

No one was debating that point until you used it to show your utter inability to understand the use of a dictionary. You don't want to debate these things, then don't introduce them into debate, and don't keep hammering away at showing your complete ignorance once you've been corrected.

ThX

The point was: is life sacred or worthless? Granted, there are degrees, so discuss...

Degrees of scared or worthless?

Yes.

[Gob]

Something is either sacred or not. Something either has worth, or is worthless.

[loCAtek]

Black and White = false choices

A false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy, fallacy of false choice, black-and-white thinking or the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses)




wIKI

[Sean]

Lucky I don't have to justify myself to you Rubato as I couldn't really be arsed!

[Sean]

I have not laughed so much in ages. Lo, get a grip. What you are saying amounts to "something is either holy or worthless". Can't you see the ignorance of that?

No, that's semantics, which the Grammar Nazis, re: pedants, are debating rather than the real issue.

The point was: is life sacred or worthless? Granted, there are degrees, so discuss...

There are degrees now? There didn't seem to be when you wrote:

Stoat, you'd prefer life wasn't sacred, and worthless?

[Gob]

Black and White = false choices

A false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy, fallacy of false choice, black-and-white thinking or the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses)




wIKI

Oh god, beam me up Scotty...

If you say something is sacred it means;

sa·cred
 
adjective
1. devoted or dedicated to a deity or to some religious purpose; consecrated.
2. entitled to veneration or religious respect by association with divinity or divine things; holy.
3. pertaining to or connected with religion

Please explain to me how life can have a "degree" of these qualities.

If you say something is worthless, it means;

worth·less
 
adjective
1. without worth; of no use, importance, or value; good-for-nothing: a worthless person; a worthless contract.

Please explain to me how life can have a "degree" of these qualities.

absolute modifier

Definition: a modifier that can't or shouldn't be compared (that is, be used in comparative or superlative form) because it stands for qualities that aren't matters of degree

I'll have you speaking correct English yet... No charge for this lesson..

[loCAtek]

[Gob]

WTF is that meant to mean?

[loCAtek]

You're not deep enough, never mind.

[Gob]

ROTFLMCO!! Someone who, in this thread alone, has been proved multiple times not to have the slightest understanding of what she posts, accuses me of not being "deep" enough..


Just Lo's shorthand for "I'll just post shit that gets me attention, to hell with the damage I am doing to my already fragile self esteem, I crave attention above all...."

[Sean]

I think she wants you to join her in the hole she's dug... That's pretty deep.

[loCAtek]

Mocking is not the same same as meaning; too bad you didn't want that.

[Sean]

Very good. That's two words you've identified as not being the same.

I really think you should start with 'A' before leaping to 'M' though. Just a little advice...

[loCAtek]

No thX pedant, I have more freedom.

[thestoat]

The point was: is life sacred or worthless? Granted, there are degrees, so discuss...

But that is like saying "Is that bus yellow or is it fast?" They are different. Something could be sacred AND worthless (maybe you would say that about a blade of grass, having life but not useful as currency - I'm guessing here since I reject the sacredness of stuff) or NOT sacred AND NOT worthless, like a car (capitals for boolean operations).

I don't believe life is sacred (a religious term and thus one I reject) OR worthless. Life is worth a lot (to the individual concerned and their loved ones - life isn't worth mich on a cosmic scale of course).

And Gob is quite right - you cannot have degrees of either. I have never heard anyone say "That relic is 70% sacred". You can have an object that is "almost worthless", but by that very definition it means it is not worthless. These two terms are black and white. They are not like properties such as translucence, that can have degrees. And you could say "Big or small or somewhere in between". But not between two words that are by their very nature absolute and not even antonyms.

[Sean]

Very well put Stoat.

To say that a non-religious person's life is worthless because they don't consider it (or anything else) to be sacred is nothing more than high-handed bigotry.

Mind you, I bet if I used a secular term (and a real antonym of worthless) and asked you if you believed that life was precious your answer might be slightly different...