Federal Prison -or- Even A DOG Would've Been Treated Better!

[Andrew D]

To be brutally honest, I'd be fine with putting down drunk drivers.

Now Jarl, ol' buddy, think about that for a moment....

Do you seriously want to put to death every person who has ever driven with a BAC reading higher than .08, (which is the legal standard for "under the influence" in most states today)

We'll have to kill off more people than Joe Stalin....

Maybe "drunk drivers" should not mean people who drive "with a BAC reading higher than .08". Maybe "drunk drivers" should mean "people who are actually drunk when they drive". The institution of mechanistic BAC standards is principally a means of enabling prosecutors to "prove" that someone was "drunk" without having to trouble themselves to prove that the person was actually drunk.

[Grim Reaper]

Maybe "drunk drivers" should not mean people who drive "with a BAC reading higher than .08". Maybe "drunk drivers" should mean "people who are actually drunk when they drive". The institution of mechanistic BAC standards is principally a means of enabling prosecutors to "prove" that someone was "drunk" without having to trouble themselves to prove that the person was actually drunk.

Of course organizations like Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) would be perfectly happy with DUI being redefined as "having looked at some alcoholic products in the same day as driving".

And mothers saying "think of the children!" tend to have a lot of sway with politicians.

[loCAtek]

...almost as good as kissin' babies!

[Jarlaxle]

It's NOT that , Jim.

Jarl believes he's being victimized because in his line of work he's being held to a higher standard of sobriety.

For Jarl, a reading of greater than .04 BAC is considered a DUI and if I'm not mistaken, the "bottle to throttle" time lapse is 24 hours.

Is it any wonder that he's a little testy on the subject of DUI's Cops, and Drunks?

Find a different line of work, Jarl and drink like the rest of us!

Actually, it's .02% for me. But I don't care, I'd be fine with .005%. I don't drink. I have cleaned up after too many drunk drivers to have any sympathy whatsoever for them. The BAC for DUI should be .01%, the penalty should be 20-life for the first offence & death by beheading for a second.

[Jarlaxle]

To be brutally honest, I'd be fine with putting down drunk drivers.

Now Jarl, ol' buddy, think about that for a moment....

Do you seriously want to put to death every person who has ever driven with a BAC reading higher than .08, (which is the legal standard for "under the influence" in most states today)

We'll have to kill off more people than Joe Stalin....

I don't know you personally, but I suspect that if you drink at all, you may have fallen into that category once or twice yourself...

I know I have....(I was just lucky enough not to have gotten stopped by Johnny Law after these "standards" were been put in place.)

I used to drink occasionally...if I had ANY alcohol, Liz drove.

In answer to your question: absolutely yes.

[Jarlaxle]

What, no one else is surprised there's someone out there more willing to use 'extreme prejudice' than Jarlaxle?

I am extremely cynical, consider most of the human race a waste of oxygen, and have considered them a waste of oxygen for the better part of twenty years now. I never claimed to be a particularly nice person. To the contrary: I'm the first to say I am not.

[loCAtek]

We knew that (and love it! You got invited here, din'cha?), it's finding out there's someone ultra-hyper-extreme cynical, that even you find misanthropic, that's interesting.

BTW I use my oxygen wisely and only breathe at night!

[Andrew D]

I am extremely cynical, consider most of the human race a waste of oxygen, and have considered them a waste of oxygen for the better part of twenty years now.

Cynicism? Hardly. Classic projection.

[rubato]

It's NOT that , Jim.

Jarl believes he's being victimized because in his line of work he's being held to a higher standard of sobriety.

For Jarl, a reading of greater than .04 BAC is considered a DUI and if I'm not mistaken, the "bottle to throttle" time lapse is 24 hours.

Is it any wonder that he's a little testy on the subject of DUI's Cops, and Drunks?

Find a different line of work, Jarl and drink like the rest of us!

Actually, it's .02% for me. But I don't care, I'd be fine with .005%. I don't drink. I have cleaned up after too many drunk drivers to have any sympathy whatsoever for them. The BAC for DUI should be .01%, the penalty should be 20-life for the first offence & death by beheading for a second.

Someone's channeling the Taliban again.

yrs,
rubato

[liberty]

Daisy Ward told The Australian there would be more justice for a dog than for her cousin, who died of heatstroke while being transported 360km across the desert in a faulty prison van where temperatures in the back reached about 50C in January 2008.

"The guards were responsible for him and all they did was drive. They had plenty of water, the air-conditioning was working in the front and they were listening to music. In the back was my cousin suffering, getting roasted," Ms Ward said.

If this isn't proof of criminal negligence I must be way too pc.

I concur.

[rubato]

Daisy Ward told The Australian there would be more justice for a dog than for her cousin, who died of heatstroke while being transported 360km across the desert in a faulty prison van where temperatures in the back reached about 50C in January 2008.

"The guards were responsible for him and all they did was drive. They had plenty of water, the air-conditioning was working in the front and they were listening to music. In the back was my cousin suffering, getting roasted," Ms Ward said.

If this isn't proof of criminal negligence I must be way too pc.

I concur.

But people like torturing others to death; as long as there is some plausible justification for it. Look at how many people admired Bush for torturing people to death or using 'special renditon' to accomplish it.

It's much easier to inspire brutality and selfishness than decency and fairness.

yrs,
rubato